Who was better? Peak Tracy McGrady or current James Harden? (self.nba)
谁更强？巅峰麦迪还是现在的哈登？
I wasn't old enough to watch peak early 2000's TMac. I know they are very different players in terms of scoring or playmaking abilities, but I've been wondering about their legacy in Houston.
因为我太年轻，从而没有能够看到新世纪早期那会的巅峰麦迪，我知道他和哈登在得分或组织能力上是两个区别很大的球员，但是我在想他俩在火箭的成就如何。
[–]shanmustafa 78 指標 18小時前
I would take T-mac if i had a team like utah/atlanta/boston where all i need is that guy to take over when it gets tough and need a bucket, cause that guy made scoring look easier than i've ever seen
But if i wanna make a bad team into a respectable team, i'd go harden, he's more valuable
如果我现在已经有一支像爵士/老鹰/凯尔特人这样的球队，球队只需要一名能在关键时刻站出来得分的球员的话，我会选择麦迪，因为他是我见过的球员中让得分看起来最容易的。
但是如果我想要把一支烂队带成一支强队的话，我会选择哈登，他的价值更高。
[–]Spurs BandwagonASpectacleStud 155 指標 18小時前
Orlando T-Mac > Harden > Houston T-Mac
魔术麦迪>哈登>火箭麦迪
[–] Byron MullensBizGilwalker 42 指標 18小時前
Yup I agree. I wouldn't argue with someone saying Harden over Orlando T-Mac though, it's pretty close.
是的我同意，但是我也不会去反对那些说现在哈登强于魔术麦迪的人，这两者很接近。
[–]HeatJCVent 20 指標 14小時前
Nah Harden gets locked up by good teams, McGrady played well no matter who, look at how bad Harden plays against Golden State
啊哈，哈登能够被强队完全压制住，而不管麦迪面对什么球队他都有出色的表现，就看看对阵勇士时哈登的表现有多糟吧。
[–]JazzApplesauces 1 指標 1小時前
Houston tmac scored 13 points in 35 see seconds though
火箭的麦迪还有35秒13分呢。
[–]elevatedimension 16 指標 18小時前
Houston T-Mac was never really an MVP contender and didn't even get to the 2nd round of the playoffs. I think Harden has Houston T-Mac beat.
火箭的麦迪从来就不是个真正的MVP争夺者，甚至都没有进过季后赛第二轮，我觉得哈登肯定能击败火箭的麦迪。
[–]KnicksDomchirico80 36 指標 17小時前
If Houston Tmac is peak Tmac then OKC Harden is peak harden
如果你觉得火箭的麦迪就是巅峰的麦迪的话，那么雷霆哈登就是巅峰的哈登。
[–]CavaliersTheBigEgg23 127 指標 18小時前
Peak McGrady was an unstoppable scorer, more so than even harden, but harden is better at being the engine of an offense, if that makes sense. You don't really need an offensive scheme with harden to have a top offense (similar to lebron and a couple other players).
巅峰麦迪是个无法阻挡的得分手，甚至比哈登都要强，但是哈登作为球队进攻引擎的效果更好，这点是讲得通的。当哈登在球队中时，你真的不需要制定什么进攻计划就能得到顶尖的进攻效果（就像勒布朗和其他一些家伙一样）。
[–]Rocketsinputfail 31 指標 16小時前
Last year our entire offense was ISO Harden and it was still the #8 most efficient offense in the league.
火蜜：去年我们的整个进攻就是让哈登单打，然而进攻端的效率还是排在了联盟前8。
[–]BulletsMagyarFoci29 42 指標 18小時前
Orlando T-Mac was insane. People hold it against him that he couldn't get out of the first round, but he had ZERO help at the time. Over the hill Shawn Kemp, rookie Gooden, Pat Garrity, and an injured Grant Hill were an awful supporting cast. Harden is on track to accomplish more, but at their peaks I'm taking T-Mac as of now.
魔术麦迪真的不可思议，人们总是拿没有进入第二轮去诋毁他，但是当时他没有任何帮手：处于生涯末期的肖恩-坎普，新秀古登，帕特-加里蒂和受伤的格兰特-希尔，这些人是非常糟糕的队友。哈登正在达成更多的成就，但是如果都处于巅峰的话，我现在还是会选择麦迪。
[–]Charlotte HornetsVgatv 13 指標 17小時前
Man if Hill had been healthy, that could have been an unstoppable duo
朋友如果希尔能保持健康的话，他和麦迪会成为不可阻挡的组合的。
[–]Knick**ahamutfan64 3 指標 12小時前
And had Duncan signed with them? Dynasty.
再加上如果邓肯加入他们了呢？王朝了。
[–]Lakers Bandwagonredbrick 54 指標 18小時前
IMO Harden is better but I had a lot more fun watching McGrady.
在我心中哈登更好，但是我更享受看麦迪打球。
[–]Rockets Bandwagonnot_so_bueno 43 指標 18小時前*
T-Mac's game was soooo aesthetically pleasing.
麦迪的比赛从美学的角度来说太令人享受了。
[–]Lakers Bandwagonredbrick 21 指標 18小時前
One of the GOAT fakes. Everything Tmac did looked so easy and smooth.
历史上最有名的假动作之一，麦迪做每一个动作看上去都是如此的容易和顺滑。
[–] Russell Westbrookwestbitch0 2 指標 14小時前
When I first saw this a while back I added it to my game and it works at least once a game.
当我第一次看到这个动作时，我把它加到了自己的比赛中，每场比赛这个动作最起码能晃到一次人。
[–]elevatedimension 3 指標 17小時前
And don't forget the stoner look he had at all times
别忘了麦迪那睡眼迷蒙的慵懒眼神。
[–]Bucks BandwagonSidMoncrief 10 指標 18小時前
I think McGrady in that one season in Orlando is better than current Harden. He wasnt the offensive system Harden is, but he also played clearly better defense, didn't turn the ball over that much and its not like McGrady wasnt a good passer too.
I wont get on anyones shit for disagreeing though.
我觉得在魔术那一个赛季的麦迪要强于现在的哈登，麦迪并没有处在像哈登这样的进攻体系中，而且显然麦迪的防守也更好，同时麦迪在拥有出色传球能力的前提下没有出现像哈登这么多的失误。
我不会在意任何不同意我的人。
谁更强？巅峰麦迪还是现在的哈登？
I wasn't old enough to watch peak early 2000's TMac. I know they are very different players in terms of scoring or playmaking abilities, but I've been wondering about their legacy in Houston.
因为我太年轻，从而没有能够看到新世纪早期那会的巅峰麦迪，我知道他和哈登在得分或组织能力上是两个区别很大的球员，但是我在想他俩在火箭的成就如何。
[–]shanmustafa 78 指標 18小時前
I would take T-mac if i had a team like utah/atlanta/boston where all i need is that guy to take over when it gets tough and need a bucket, cause that guy made scoring look easier than i've ever seen
But if i wanna make a bad team into a respectable team, i'd go harden, he's more valuable
如果我现在已经有一支像爵士/老鹰/凯尔特人这样的球队，球队只需要一名能在关键时刻站出来得分的球员的话，我会选择麦迪，因为他是我见过的球员中让得分看起来最容易的。
但是如果我想要把一支烂队带成一支强队的话，我会选择哈登，他的价值更高。
[–]Spurs BandwagonASpectacleStud 155 指標 18小時前
Orlando T-Mac > Harden > Houston T-Mac
魔术麦迪>哈登>火箭麦迪
[–] Byron MullensBizGilwalker 42 指標 18小時前
Yup I agree. I wouldn't argue with someone saying Harden over Orlando T-Mac though, it's pretty close.
是的我同意，但是我也不会去反对那些说现在哈登强于魔术麦迪的人，这两者很接近。
[–]HeatJCVent 20 指標 14小時前
Nah Harden gets locked up by good teams, McGrady played well no matter who, look at how bad Harden plays against Golden State
啊哈，哈登能够被强队完全压制住，而不管麦迪面对什么球队他都有出色的表现，就看看对阵勇士时哈登的表现有多糟吧。
[–]JazzApplesauces 1 指標 1小時前
Houston tmac scored 13 points in 35 see seconds though
火箭的麦迪还有35秒13分呢。
[–]elevatedimension 16 指標 18小時前
Houston T-Mac was never really an MVP contender and didn't even get to the 2nd round of the playoffs. I think Harden has Houston T-Mac beat.
火箭的麦迪从来就不是个真正的MVP争夺者，甚至都没有进过季后赛第二轮，我觉得哈登肯定能击败火箭的麦迪。
[–]KnicksDomchirico80 36 指標 17小時前
If Houston Tmac is peak Tmac then OKC Harden is peak harden
如果你觉得火箭的麦迪就是巅峰的麦迪的话，那么雷霆哈登就是巅峰的哈登。
[–]CavaliersTheBigEgg23 127 指標 18小時前
Peak McGrady was an unstoppable scorer, more so than even harden, but harden is better at being the engine of an offense, if that makes sense. You don't really need an offensive scheme with harden to have a top offense (similar to lebron and a couple other players).
巅峰麦迪是个无法阻挡的得分手，甚至比哈登都要强，但是哈登作为球队进攻引擎的效果更好，这点是讲得通的。当哈登在球队中时，你真的不需要制定什么进攻计划就能得到顶尖的进攻效果（就像勒布朗和其他一些家伙一样）。
[–]Rocketsinputfail 31 指標 16小時前
Last year our entire offense was ISO Harden and it was still the #8 most efficient offense in the league.
火蜜：去年我们的整个进攻就是让哈登单打，然而进攻端的效率还是排在了联盟前8。
[–]BulletsMagyarFoci29 42 指標 18小時前
Orlando T-Mac was insane. People hold it against him that he couldn't get out of the first round, but he had ZERO help at the time. Over the hill Shawn Kemp, rookie Gooden, Pat Garrity, and an injured Grant Hill were an awful supporting cast. Harden is on track to accomplish more, but at their peaks I'm taking T-Mac as of now.
魔术麦迪真的不可思议，人们总是拿没有进入第二轮去诋毁他，但是当时他没有任何帮手：处于生涯末期的肖恩-坎普，新秀古登，帕特-加里蒂和受伤的格兰特-希尔，这些人是非常糟糕的队友。哈登正在达成更多的成就，但是如果都处于巅峰的话，我现在还是会选择麦迪。
[–]Charlotte HornetsVgatv 13 指標 17小時前
Man if Hill had been healthy, that could have been an unstoppable duo
朋友如果希尔能保持健康的话，他和麦迪会成为不可阻挡的组合的。
[–]Knick**ahamutfan64 3 指標 12小時前
And had Duncan signed with them? Dynasty.
再加上如果邓肯加入他们了呢？王朝了。
[–]Lakers Bandwagonredbrick 54 指標 18小時前
IMO Harden is better but I had a lot more fun watching McGrady.
在我心中哈登更好，但是我更享受看麦迪打球。
[–]Rockets Bandwagonnot_so_bueno 43 指標 18小時前*
T-Mac's game was soooo aesthetically pleasing.
麦迪的比赛从美学的角度来说太令人享受了。
[–]Lakers Bandwagonredbrick 21 指標 18小時前
One of the GOAT fakes. Everything Tmac did looked so easy and smooth.
历史上最有名的假动作之一，麦迪做每一个动作看上去都是如此的容易和顺滑。
[–] Russell Westbrookwestbitch0 2 指標 14小時前
When I first saw this a while back I added it to my game and it works at least once a game.
当我第一次看到这个动作时，我把它加到了自己的比赛中，每场比赛这个动作最起码能晃到一次人。
[–]elevatedimension 3 指標 17小時前
And don't forget the stoner look he had at all times
别忘了麦迪那睡眼迷蒙的慵懒眼神。
[–]Bucks BandwagonSidMoncrief 10 指標 18小時前
I think McGrady in that one season in Orlando is better than current Harden. He wasnt the offensive system Harden is, but he also played clearly better defense, didn't turn the ball over that much and its not like McGrady wasnt a good passer too.
I wont get on anyones shit for disagreeing though.
我觉得在魔术那一个赛季的麦迪要强于现在的哈登，麦迪并没有处在像哈登这样的进攻体系中，而且显然麦迪的防守也更好，同时麦迪在拥有出色传球能力的前提下没有出现像哈登这么多的失误。
我不会在意任何不同意我的人。
