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几天没玩更新一下又多了个用户协议

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别又是psn绑定吧,直接给个打不开的网址叫人签协议也太可疑了


IP属地:江苏来自Android客户端1楼2024-10-07 21:58回复
    跟这个没关系


    IP属地:广东来自Android客户端2楼2024-10-07 22:28
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      跟PSN绑定没什么关系,高亮主要是起诉索尼相关的一些事项


      IP属地:中国香港3楼2024-10-07 22:30
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        reddit上有人整理了一下,你机翻看看吧
        *I am not a lawyer and this does not constitute legal advice*
        Edit: It has been brought to my attention that the agreement is basically the same as the first one. My interpretation is unchanged, just means they could still do this at anytime. I did a line by line comparison and the differences between the 2 will be at the bottom of this post. What the differences mean, is up to your interpretation.
        TLDR
        Sony is making it very difficult and pointless to take legal action against them.
        "Legal Translation"
        Sony is changing how legal action is brought against it going forward. If you're familiar with the Steam arbitration change, this is similar. The bold in section 8 says you cannot hold sony liable for anything related to the software (Helldivers 2) prior to this agreement. So whatever they may have misrepresented or understanding they came to between the divers and the company is no longer something they can be taken to court for. Think being allowed to play the game without a PSN account for example as an understanding.
        Section 9 outlines in further detail the terms of any dispute with them, it says that all legal action you take against them must be as an individual and not as a class action or group arbitration. Plus, if your claim is under 10,000$ (The upper limit of small claims court) Then you have to take them to small claims court. You CANNOT enter arbitration with them. Very very few divers will have damages that are over 10000$ making legal action pointless and expensive. Additionally the claim must be filed in the local San Mateo, CA court, creating a further barrier.
        If you don't want to be bound by this you have to send them a letter in writing to opt out, "within 30 days of your purchase or download", which makes this an agreement that anyone diving for more than a month CANNOT opt out of.
        They are trying to create a legal blockade to allow them to do whatever they want with helldivers 2, and drastically prevent or limit the majority of the player population from taking legal action against them.
        8. MISCELLANEOUS
        This Agreement shall be construed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of the State of California, United States, applying to contracts fully executed and performed within the State of California, United States. If the binding arbitration terms of Section 9 do not apply or are not enforceable on any Dispute, both parties submit to personal jurisdiction in California, United States, and further agree that such Dispute shall be brought in a court within San Mateo County, California, United States. If any provision of this Agreement shall be held invalid or unenforceable, in whole or in part, such provision shall be modified to the minimum extent necessary to make it valid and enforceable, and the validity and enforceability of all other provisions of this Agreement shall not be affected thereby. This Agreement constitutes the entire agreement between the parties related to the subject matter hereof and supersedes all prior agreements, representations, warranties or understandings between you and SIE (whether negligently or innocently made), and all prior or contemporaneous negotiations and commitments of the parties, all of which are merged herein. Sections 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11 survive the termination of this Agreement.
        (Excerpt from section 9)
        If you have a Dispute (other than one described as excluded from arbitration below) with any Sony Entity that cannot be resolved through negotiation as required below, you and the Sony Entity must seek resolution of the Dispute only through arbitration of that Dispute according to this Section 9’s terms, and not litigate that Dispute in court. Arbitration means that the Dispute will be resolved by a neutral arbitrator instead of in a court by a judge or jury.
        YOU AND SONY ENTITY AGREE THAT ANY CLAIM FILED BY YOU OR BY SONY ENTITY IN SMALL CLAIMS COURT IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE ARBITRATION TERMS CONTAINED IN THIS SECTION 9.
        IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO BE BOUND BY THE BINDING ARBITRATION AND CLASS ACTION WAIVER IN THIS SECTION 9, YOU MUST NOTIFY SIE IN WRITING WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE DATE THAT YOU FIRST PURCHASE OR DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE (WHICHEVER IS EARLIER). YOUR WRITTEN NOTIFICATION MUST BE MAILED TO SONY INTERACTIVE ENTERTAINMENT LLC, 2207 BRIDGEPOINTE PARKWAY, SAN MATEO, CA 94404, UNITED STATES, ATTN: LEGAL DEPARTMENT - WAIVER, AND MUST INCLUDE: (1) YOUR NAME, (2) YOUR ADDRESS, (3) YOUR PLAYSTATION NETWORK SIGN-IN ID IF YOU HAVE ONE, AND (4) A CLEAR STATEMENT THAT YOU DO NOT WISH TO RESOLVE DISPUTES WITH SONY ENTITY THROUGH ARBITRATION.
        IF YOU HAVE A DISPUTE WITH SONY ENTITY, YOU MUST SEND WRITTEN NOTICE TO SONY INTERACTIVE ENTERTAINMENT LLC, 2207 BRIDGEPOINTE PARKWAY, SAN MATEO, CA 94404, ATTN: LEGAL DEPARTMENT – DISPUTE RESOLUTION, TO GIVE SONY ENTITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESOLVE THE DISPUTE INFORMALLY THROUGH NEGOTIATION.
        You agree to negotiate resolution of the Dispute in good faith for no fewer than 60 days after you provide notice of the Dispute. If Sony Entity does not resolve your Dispute within 60 days from its receipt of notice of the Dispute, you or Sony Entity may pursue your claim in arbitration pursuant to the terms in this Section 9.
        ANY DISPUTE RESOLUTION PROCEEDINGS, WHETHER IN ARBITRATION OR COURT, WILL BE CONDUCTED ONLY ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS AND NOT IN A CLASS OR REPRESENTATIVE ACTION OR AS A NAMED OR UNNAMED MEMBER IN A CLASS, CONSOLIDATED, REPRESENTATIVE OR PRIVATE ATTORNEY GENERAL ACTION, UNLESS BOTH YOU AND SONY ENTITY SPECIFICALLY AGREE TO DO SO IN WRITING FOLLOWING INITIATION OF THE ARBITRATION.


        IP属地:中国香港4楼2024-10-07 22:31
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